O’Donnell was stunned after reviewing the audio of Maxwell’s interview with Todd Blanche.

MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell has called out what he described as the “most perverse” detail of Ghislaine Maxwell’s 9-hour interview with the Department of Justice—the laughter. Maxwell, a convicted sex trafficker and longtime associate of Jeffrey Epstein, sat for two days of questioning from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who pressed Maxwell on roughly 100 people connected to Epstein. The Epstein files are the heart of a Trump-fueled MAGA conspiracy theory that the disgraced financier was killed as part of a cover-up, despite all official investigations ruling his death a suicide.